The Left Preaches Security, The Right Preaches Liberty


Security or Liberty?

The left thinks that government can provide collective security. Maybe it can but Grandpa always said that a person who is coersed into doing something can never feel secure. He said that the greatest feeling of security comes from liberty for it is only then that a man can feel secure in himself. For it is only when a man knows he can depend upon himself that he knows both liberty as well as security.

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9 thoughts on “The Left Preaches Security, The Right Preaches Liberty

  1. Most folks today don’t feel secure in themselves because they don’t know the security of God.

  2. BB-Idaho

    Another thought on ‘security’ from one of those pondering founders:
    “The property of this country is absolutely concentrated in a very few hands, having revenues of from half a million of guineas a year downwards… I am conscious that an equal division of property is impracticable. But the consequences of this enormous inequality producing so much misery to the bulk of mankind, legislators cannot invent too many devices for subdividing property, only taking care to let their subdivisions go hand in hand with the natural affections of the human mind. Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise. Whenever there is in any country, uncultivated lands and unemployed poor, it is clear that the laws of property have been so far extended as to violate natural right. The earth is given as a common stock for man to labor and live on.”
    –Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, October 28,1785. ME 19:17, Papers 8:682
    …long ways back they were thinking of taxation as a means of
    wealth redistribution. Odd, coming from a founder that was very much interested in maximum liberty…

    • BB said: “The property of this country is absolutely concentrated in a very few hands”

      That was probably true then, but certainly isn’t now, when a majority are by any yardstick well off.

  3. The Griper

    look at the time this was written, BB, 9 months prior to the declaration of independence when all land belonged to the king and any distribution of land was determined by the king. and if you remember too, under the Articles of Confederation the States paid the taxes for the Central government, not the people.

    and Jefferson was speaking of inequality of property(land) not of wealth. the greater the amount of land a man owned, the greater the amount of taxes he should pay.
    it had nothing to do with wealth redistribution from what i read. there was no welfare system back then. any taxes collected was not redistributed to the poor as it is now as far as i know.

    • BB-Idaho

      “look at the time this was written, BB, 9 months prior to the declaration of independence”
      …I read 1785 as 9 years, two months after the D of I (July 4,
      1776) In 1785, property was the main means of ‘wealth’; we
      recall the age-old British, indeed European, handling of property
      as a continuation of the ‘feudal system’ of the nobility owning
      all land (property) and having it worked (value added) by peasants. Jefferson noted the similarity in the new country and IMO ‘lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise.’ cannot but
      be interpeted as progressive taxation (based upon earlier
      writings of Thomas Paine). Whether as some moral imperative, or as a method of avoiding an internal tax revolt which precipitated the actions of 1776. In either event, what Jefferson was thinking of, progressive taxation, is generally perceived as
      resulting in wealth redistribution. As usual, Griper I am agreeing to be disagreeable….

  4. The Griper

    first of all, i must admit to being wrong. i don’t know where my mind as at the time i tried to say it was written earlier. 🙂

    in fact, ignore my previous comment all together. it was a feeble-minded rebuttal.

    • BB-Idaho

      Better a minor numerical history glitch on a blog….than a
      numerical glitch on the IRS tax form. Griper 🙂

  5. The Griper

    got a good right wing excuse tho, BB. old age and heat out here got to me. 🙂

  6. BB-Idaho

    Was thinking about your trip to Charlevoix.
    One of those French named locales. Should your
    trip take you through DuBois & St. Deroin, NE-
    Duchesne & Bonneville, UT- Pierre & Belle Fourche,
    SD- Choteau & Wibaux, MT- LaPort & DesMoines,
    IA- Faribault & Le Sueur, MN- Fond du Lac, &
    Prairie du Chien, WI..and St. Ignace & L’Anse, MI
    …you could say you traveled through France!
    …A votre sante, Monsieur de laissez-faire. 🙂

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